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the Chin Chiao Tang River (Khetruaw Kha) it should extend to the crest of the Palata Hills, where it would stop.

The draft Article, proposed by Sir E. Satow, contemplated that the frontier should continue to the confines of Thibet; but it must be remembered that between the Sub-Prefecture of T'engyuel and Thibet intervene the two Prefectures of Tali and Lichiang. The country examined by Mr. Consul Litton, and shown on the map stamped by him and Shih Taotai, only extends alongside of Tengyueh territory; of this we have no doubt. Consequently, the section of frontier north of 25° 35′ north latitude should not extend further than the border of Tengyueh.

Many objections are presented by the British Government's idea of merely taking the basins of certain rivers as the frontier. For example: the Salwen, whose northern course passes through the two Prefectures of Lá Chiang and Tali to Yung-ch'ang-fu; of which latter Prefecture the part conterminous with the Sub-Prefecture of T'eugyuch is the district of Pao Shan. Or again, the Irawadi, made up as it is north of Bhamo, in Burmah, of three streams--the Maikha in the middle, the Kengtiwan on the west, and the N'Maikha on the east-the latter of which flows on the border of T'engyueh; or again, the Lung Chiang, whose source is in Ming Kwang, in T'engyueh territory, while to the north of Ming Kwang are to be found the tribal Settlements of Tzuchu, Hpare, and Tien Tan.

To trust, therefore, merely to the flow of the rivers would be eminently unsatisfactory.

As regards the tribal Settlement of Teng Keng, this is under the jurisdiction of the Pao Shan district. On the west of Teng Keng is the adjoining tribal Settlement of Tzuchu, which is under the jurisdiction of Tengyueh, whilst the north-west part of Ming Kwang also adjoins Tzuchu, and further to the west comes the Hpare Settlement.

Sir E. Satow's note proposes that the native Chiefs of Teng Keng and Ming Kwang be paid compensation in lieu of the presents which they have been in the habit of receiving from villages on the western side of the proposed boundary, so that this long-pending question may be settled. But as regards Teng Keng and Ming Kwang there is no long-pending question. The long-pending question only arises in respect to the country on the west of the boundary of these two territories, where Tzuchu and Hpare lie, these being indisputably controlled by Chinese tribal authorities. This being the case, the boundary line must be defined clearly if this matter is to be equitably settled.

According to the Viceroy's Report, the upper waters of the Irawadi, under the name of the N'Maikha, flow along the borders of Tengyueh territory. This just fulfils the conditions so constantly attributed by Sir E. Satow to the water-parting east of the N'Maikha, which he described as the natural and best frontier line, and on that account as the one which should be chosen.

I therefore have the honour to request you to ask His Britannic Majesty's Government, on my behalf, to refer to the provision made in Article IV of the Burmah Convention stipulating for a further careful examination of the features and conditions of the country north of 25° 35' north latitude, and to agree to carry out an impartial negotiation of this matter, as requested in my former note, and on the basis of the Viceroy's Report, so that an early settlement of this question may be reached.

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the Chin Chiao Tang River (Khetruaw Kha) it should extend to the crest of the Palata Hills, where it would stop. The draft Article, proposed by Sir E. Satow, contemplated that the frontier should continue to the confines of Thibet; but it must be remembered that between the Sub-Prefecture of T'engyuel and Thibet intervene the two Prefectures of Tali and Lichiang. The country examined by Mr. Consul Litton, and shown on the map stamped by him and Shih Taotai, only extends alongside of Tengyueh territory; of this we have no doubt. Consequently, the section of frontier north of 25° 35′ north latitude should not extend further than the border of Tengyueh. Many objections are presented by the British Government's idea of merely taking the basins of certain rivers as the frontier. For example: the Salwen, whose northern course passes through the two Prefectures of Chiang and Tali to Yung-ch'ang-fu; of which latter Prefecture the part conterminous with the Sub-Prefecture of T'eugyuch is the district of Pao Shan. Or again, the Irawadi, made up as it is north of Bhamo, in Burmah, of three streams--the Maikha in the middle, the Kengtiwan on the west, and the N'Maikha on the east-the latter of which flows on the border of T'engyueh; or again, the Lung Chiang, whose source is in Ming Kwang, in T'engyueh territory, while to the north of Ming Kwang are to be found the tribal Settlements of Tzuchu, Hpare, and Tien Tan. To trust, therefore, merely to the flow of the rivers would be eminently unsatisfactory. As regards the tribal Settlement of Teng Keng, this is under the jurisdiction of the Pao Shan district. On the west of Teng Keng is the adjoining tribal Settlement of Tzuchu, which is under the jurisdiction of Tengyueh, whilst the north-west part of Ming Kwang also adjoins Tzuchu, and further to the west comes the Hpare Settlement. Sir E. Satow's note proposes that the native Chiefs of Teng Keng and Ming Kwang be paid compensation in lieu of the presents which they have been in the habit of receiving from villages on the western side of the proposed boundary, so that this long-pending question may be settled. But as regards Teng Keng and Ming Kwang there is no long-pending question. The long-pending question only arises in respect to the country on the west of the boundary of these two territories, where Tzuchu and Hpare lie, these being indisputably controlled by Chinese tribal authorities. This being the case, the boundary line must be defined clearly if this matter is to be equitably settled. According to the Viceroy's Report, the upper waters of the Irawadi, under the name of the N'Maikha, flow along the borders of Tengyueh territory. This just fulfils the conditions so constantly attributed by Sir E. Satow to the water-parting east of the N'Maikha, which he described as the natural and best frontier line, and on that account as the one which should be chosen. I therefore have the honour to request you to ask His Britannic Majesty's Government, on my behalf, to refer to the provision made in Article IV of the Burmah Convention stipulating for a further careful examination of the features and conditions of the country north of 25° 35' north latitude, and to agree to carry out an impartial negotiation of this matter, as requested in my former note, and on the basis of the Viceroy's Report, so that an early settlement of this question may be reached. Office or Individual. Foreign 1906 dor Last previous Paper. Fo 41844 (B & I, 978) - J192—221» Next subsequent Paper. 70 43505 HONG KONG Noa 42969 (Subject.) Affairs of China Fruits of further Pur Fing Jus tothin Jojo Are Sec. hav. 5.00 (Minutes.) I have kept back 173 DOMESTIC. C O 42969 Py 22 NOV her care wi hai whi C copy to G. circulated with toile papers. sex abo Oct. 2. 3. Q). fo Shate the Hang King? an inclined 15- X ? Land prints with aut 23 Kink not. H.K. Souel LE, Thawe remord there two pients form "The papers 74111 2411. ALC It Lucy what do you day on to the (it contain your WHW.)? I think I would have it out of also the last print (Was price letter on same subject) CPL 24 at once
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2 the Chin Chiao Tang River (Khetruaw Kha) it should extend to the crest of the Palata Hills, where it would stop. The draft Article, proposed by Sir E. Satow, contemplated that the frontier should continue to the confines of Thibet; but it must be remembered that between the Sub-Prefecture of T'engyuel and Thibet intervene the two Prefectures of Tali and Lichiang. The country examined by Mr. Consul Litton, and shown on the map stamped by him and Shih Taotai, only extends alongside of Tengyueh territory; of this we have no doubt. Consequently, the section of frontier north of 25° 35′ north latitude should not extend further than the border of Tengyueh. Many objections are presented by the British Government's idea of merely taking the basins of certain rivers as the frontier. For example: the Salwen, whose northern course passes through the two Prefectures of Chiang and Tali to Yung- ch'ang-fu; of which latter Prefecture the part conterminous with the Sub-Prefecture of T'eugyuch is the district of Pao Shan. Or again, the Irawadi, made up as it is north of Bhamo, in Burmah, of three streams--the Maikha in the middle, the Kengtiwan on the west, and the N'Maikha on the east-the latter of which flows on the border of T'engyueh; or again, the Lung Chiang, whose source is in Ming Kwang, in T'engyueh territory, while to the north of Ming Kwang are to be found the tribal Settlements of Tzuchu, Hpare, and Tien Tan. To trust, therefore, merely to the flow of the rivers would be eminently unsatis- factory. As regards the tribal Settlement of Teng Keng, this is under the jurisdiction of the Pao Shan district. On the west of Teng Keng is the adjoining tribal Settlement of Tzuchu, which is under the jurisdiction of Tengyueh, whilst the north-west part of Ming Kwang also adjoins Tzuchu, and further to the west comes the pare Settlement. Sir E. Satow's note proposes that the native Chiefs of Teng Keng and Ming Kwang be paid compensation in lieu of the presents which they have been in the habit of receiving from villages on the western side of the proposed boundary, so that this long-pending question may be settled. But as regards Teng Keng and Ming Kwang there is no long-pending question. The long-pending question only arises in respect to the country on the west of the boundary of these two territories, where Tzuchu and Hpare lie, these being indisputably controlled by Chinese tribal authori- ties. This being the case, the boundary line must be defined clearly if this matter is to be equitably settled. According to the Viceroy's Report, the upper waters of the Irawadi, under the name of the N'Maikha, flow along the borders of Tengyueh territory. This just fulfils the conditions so constantly attributed by Sir E. Satow to the water-parting east of the N'Maikha, which he described as the natural and best frontier line, and on that account as the one which should be chosen. I therefore have the honour to request you to ask His Britannic Majesty's Government, on my behalf, to refer to the provision made in Article IV of the Burmah Convention stipulating for a further careful examination of the features and conditions of the country north of 25° 35' north latitude, and to agree to carry out an impartial negotiation of this matter, as requested in my former note, and on the basis of the Viceroy's Report, so that an early settlement of this question may be reached. Office or Individual. Foreign 1906 dor Last previous Paper. Fo 41844 (B & 1, 978) - J192—221 » ext subsequent Paper. 70 43505 EONG KONG Noa 42969 (Subject.) Affairs of China Pruits of further Pur Fing Jus tothin Jojo Are Sec. hav. 5.00 (Minutes.) I have kept back д 173 DOMESTIC. C O 42969 Py 22 NOV her care wi hai whi C copy to G. circulated with toile papers. sex abo Oct. 2. 3. Q). fo Shate the Hang King ? an inclined 15- X ? Land prints with aut 23 Kink not. H.K. Souel LE, Thawe remord there two pients form "The papers 74111 2411. ALC It Lucy what do you day on to the (it contain your WHW.)? Я сее по Mens objection to its going Pt. 23 I think I would have it out of also the last print (Was price letter on same subject) CPL 24 at once ;
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the Chin Chiao Tang River (Khetruaw Kha) it should extend to the crest of the Palata Hills, where it would stop.

The draft Article, proposed by Sir E. Satow, contemplated that the frontier should continue to the confines of Thibet; but it must be remembered that between the Sub-Prefecture of T'engyuel and Thibet intervene the two Prefectures of Tali and Lichiang. The country examined by Mr. Consul Litton, and shown on the map stamped by him and Shih Taotai, only extends alongside of Tengyueh territory; of this we have no doubt. Consequently, the section of frontier north of 25° 35′ north latitude should not extend further than the border of Tengyueh.

Many objections are presented by the British Government's idea of merely taking the basins of certain rivers as the frontier. For example: the Salwen, whose northern course passes through the two Prefectures of Lá Chiang and Tali to Yung- ch'ang-fu; of which latter Prefecture the part conterminous with the Sub-Prefecture of T'eugyuch is the district of Pao Shan. Or again, the Irawadi, made up as it is north of Bhamo, in Burmah, of three streams--the Maikha in the middle, the Kengtiwan on the west, and the N'Maikha on the east-the latter of which flows on the border of T'engyueh; or again, the Lung Chiang, whose source is in Ming Kwang, in T'engyueh territory, while to the north of Ming Kwang are to be found the tribal Settlements of Tzuchu, Hpare, and Tien Tan.

To trust, therefore, merely to the flow of the rivers would be eminently unsatis- factory.

As regards the tribal Settlement of Teng Keng, this is under the jurisdiction of the Pao Shan district. On the west of Teng Keng is the adjoining tribal Settlement of Tzuchu, which is under the jurisdiction of Tengyueh, whilst the north-west part of Ming Kwang also adjoins Tzuchu, and further to the west comes the pare Settlement.

Sir E. Satow's note proposes that the native Chiefs of Teng Keng and Ming Kwang be paid compensation in lieu of the presents which they have been in the habit of receiving from villages on the western side of the proposed boundary, so that this long-pending question may be settled. But as regards Teng Keng and Ming Kwang there is no long-pending question. The long-pending question only arises in respect to the country on the west of the boundary of these two territories, where Tzuchu and Hpare lie, these being indisputably controlled by Chinese tribal authori- ties. This being the case, the boundary line must be defined clearly if this matter is to be equitably settled.

According to the Viceroy's Report, the upper waters of the Irawadi, under the name of the N'Maikha, flow along the borders of Tengyueh territory. This just fulfils the conditions so constantly attributed by Sir E. Satow to the water-parting east of the N'Maikha, which he described as the natural and best frontier line, and on that account as the one which should be chosen.

I therefore have the honour to request you to ask His Britannic Majesty's Government, on my behalf, to refer to the provision made in Article IV of the Burmah Convention stipulating for a further careful examination of the features and conditions of the country north of 25° 35' north latitude, and to agree to carry out an impartial negotiation of this matter, as requested in my former note, and on the basis of the Viceroy's Report, so that an early settlement of this question may be reached.

Office or Individual.

Foreign

1906

dor

Last previous Paper.

Fo

41844

(B & 1, 978) - J192—221 »

ext subsequent Paper.

70 43505

EONG KONG

Noa 42969

(Subject.)

Affairs of China

Pruits of further

Pur Fing

Jus tothin

Jojo Are

Sec. hav.

5.00

(Minutes.)

I have kept back

д

173

DOMESTIC.

C O

42969

Py 22 NOV

her care

wi hai whi

C

copy to G.

circulated with toile papers.

sex abo Oct. 2. 3. Q).

fo

Shate the

là Hang King ?

an inclined 15-

X

? Land prints

with aut

23

Kink not.

H.K. Souel LE,

Thawe remord

there two

pients form

"The papers

74111

2411.

ALC

It Lucy what do you day on to the (it contain your

WHW.)?

Я сее по

Mens

objection to its going Pt.

23

I think I would have it out of also the last print (Was price letter on same subject)

CPL 24 at once

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